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#1965791 ILP Guidelines - Must Read For New Members

Posted by Eddie on 04 February 2007 - 07:22 AM

UPDATED 9/2012

Thank you for taking time to read up on the:
ILP Guidelines
(also known as "Rules")

  • If you have an issue with an action taken by ILP administration or an ILP moderator, or a decision by one of our paid membership review boards, please direct your complaint to eddie@ilovephotography.com, rather than posting it on the boards. Posting such issues on the boards inevitably leads to drama, and we aim to keep drama to a minimum so that the art and business of children's portrait photography may be discussed with as little distraction as possible.
  • All images and creative prose posted here are copyrighted by their respective talented authors. It is unlawful (and not nice), to copy and use these works without their permission (so please do not copy and paste member content from ILP into another outside forum without prior permission). Please ask an image's author first before adding your image modifications.
  • If you're posting images of children, please obtain permission from the parents to do so.
  • In order to maintain the peace in our forums, please do not attempt to use the forums to settle disputes (tempting as it may be), whether personal or professional in nature. Airing such conflicts in the forums sacrifices the peaceful atmosphere that we've come to expect here at ILP. Please do not "confront" members via posting on the forums... try email or PM first.
  • Part of ILP's appeal is that members here are kind to each other. In your posts, please try not to be mean to individual photographers, or to groups of photographers, organizations, etc. It only leads to friction and then regret later on. ILP shall have a low threshold for any such unkindness. Please Note: Any post that is viewed to be baiting or inciting or unkind, will be removed without notice. If suddenly your post has disappeared, it may be because you worded things a bit too harshly. Do not publish emails or email addresses that were privately sent to you - this is only good internet etiquette, not just an ILP rule.
  • Remember: Forums in the "open" category are accessible by anyone who registers, including potential portrait clients. So please do not discuss matters relating to marketing, pricing, labs, trade secrets, customer relations, or other such sensitive matters. Those topics should be discussed in the paid forums only, which are hidden to regular members. Also, please think twice about spilling your private guts in the forums... consider whether you want to give that much info to all.
  • Choose a forum wisely when you post. Do not post your question/image in more than one forum - it may be deleted. Also, we do not allow a member to quickly mass-post less-than-meaningful replies to random threads in order to satisfy a minimum post count to access certain forums. Please amass posts in a proper manner, thanks. ^_^
  • Special "Meetups" rule: You may post about getting together around a workshop being offered by someone, but please do not post their ads for them. Simply use your own words to discuss the workshop meetup and avoid sounding like a promotion for that workshop. Over-promoting posts will be deleted.
  • We no longer allow "vote in my blog contest" requests in threads or in sig lines. Reasoning: they're seldom educational photography-wise, and are wasteful of forum resources. These types of threads will be quietly deleted without notice. Similarly, please do not use the forums to cull votes to win online photo contests, or post "fan me", "friend me", or other such demands related to social network sites.
  • If you run into info that doesn't seem right, seek a second opinion. Although photogs here try to post valid info, sometimes they speak from personal experience, which may not be relevant to you.
  • We cannot allow any posts intended to collect money from members FOR ANY REASON. Please do not put ILP on the spot by posting a fundraiser for a heart-tugging cause, as it creates an awkward situation. In addition, such posts put ILPers on the spot to donate. Remember, ILP is a photography forum -- fundraisers should be conducted at your own website or other venue. Posts with links that serve to gain the poster money or credits or prizes, etc., are not allowed.
  • We do not allow posts which serve to round up members in order to create a group at another forum (a new venture, flicker, etc.). Not only is it not in ILP's best interest, but it's just not good forum manners. ^_^
  • Group buys are conducted only in the TradeShow forums, and only by ILP TradeShow Vendors. ILP Vendors may not start freebie threads, where items (actions, templates, etc) are given away. It is preferred that ILP not be subjected to viral marketing techniques; for this reason, posting links that promote a company's viral marketing campaign is not allowed. For example, posting "Groupon" links, or links to blogs or websites conducting viral marketing offers or contests... not allowed.
  • Please do not post business advertisements or conduct business transactions or customer support in the forums. Advertisements disguised as helpful posts are also not allowed. Vendors may not initiate discussions regarding their products or services. Vendors may respond to questions, but may not give sales pitches, tech support, specific and/or casual customer service (such as what might occur when seeking the vendor's opinion on an ordering decision) or offer links to their sites unless specifically requested.
  • Using members to market-test your product -- vendor market research (for example, asking members to test your new actions, or polling members for workshop preferences, etc.) -- is not allowed, since it is a form of advertising. Please do not post Facebook or Twitter links if they market products/services to photographers.
  • ILP is dedicated to child portrait photography not politics or religion, so in order to keep the peace please refrain from discussing political/religion issues, and from including such in your signatures. As administrator at ILP, I would like to state a strong preference: Please do not post (image or discussions) about the following topics, as they are not a good fit with the atmosphere at ILP: guns (in any context), hunted animals, kids with drugs, or any topic you consider highly sensitive that would eventually lead to drama on the forums. If you have a request for a disallowed topic, please let me know and I'll consider it.
  • It is preferred that you avoid choosing a mommy or daddy-related user name, since it would help the professional atmosphere at ILP to use a more straight forward user name such as your first name and last initial, or your photography business name, etc.
  • Specific Rules for Signatures:
  • All members of ILP (except for paid vendors): You may not have in your sig any advertising text or links to any company that is not your portrait biz. You may have a link to your own portrait related website or blog - the one your portrait clients go to. Extra non-linked text about your portrait website or blog is okay. Links to blogs or websites that collect money for any reason, including charitable causes, are not permitted. If your Facebook or Twitter link markets directly to photographers, it is not allowed in your signature.
  • You may not have photographic images in your signature, since they distract too much from photo discussion. If you need to show an image, place it in your avatar or profile. Non-photographic illustrations in the signature may not be larger than 70x140 pixels.
  • Animation is not permitted in signatures, since animation may distract from photo discussion.
  • Do not use extra large (larger than size "4") or lots of bold red text in your signatures. When your signature is too noticeable, it distracts from the photo discussion. If you see that your signature has been reduced in size or turned to normal black text, please consider it a gentle reminder that your sig was previously too loud.
  • Paid ILP TradeShow Vendors: You may place in your sig your vendor website link within a maximum of 3 lines of normal sized text, no more than 45 words in length; no exclamation marks (!) or special character strings allowed (for example, *****, or ###, are not allowed). Inappropriate sig text/links will be removed quietly. TradeShow members may also include a banner image in their signatures sized to no larger than 70x190 pixels. Please note: In your signature, you may only advertise the company linked to your TradeShow banner ad; in other words, you may not advertise more than one company.

    Please report any violations of the above guidelines by clicking on the "report this post" button located within the thread in question. Contact us to suggest any new guideline that you think would benefit the successful running of the ILP forums. Thank you. Ü

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#5400203 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by Shannon Stroubakis on 05 June 2012 - 10:52 AM

Not all Advanced and Pro members (or former members) are in business. Many are just like you, hobbyists or ex pros who chose to do other full time work, and haven gotten good - really ridiculously good - just by shooting their own kids, PBing, and practicing. Just because you are looking to shoot like a pro doesn't mean you have to feel pressure to be in business, or justify to anyone else why you want to shoot like a pro and improve! So keep at it, and keep shooting and asking for CC. You can reach Pro status too by soaking in all that ILP has to offer.
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#4391355 FREE Desktop Business Management Software

Posted by StudioCloud on 13 January 2010 - 11:39 PM

We wanted to share this announcement with all I Love Photography members. We hope you enjoy your free software!

StudioCloud International Inc., a leading provider of small business management software, is excited to announce the release of StudioCloud 3.0. This software, which is valued at over $700 is now free. Version 3.0 is desktop software that includes client management, scheduling, invoicing, bookkeeping, reporting, project management, marketing tools, and much more.

Please visit www.studiocloud.com to download your free software!

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#5400186 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by Romana on 05 June 2012 - 10:05 AM

As I get deeper into this amazing forum, I realize there is so much I don't know about it. I have been here a whole 9 months. Gee!

Did you know that:
Many of the great natural light photographers started out here and still drop in from time to time.
Meg Bitton, Andrea Joki, Melody Hood, WildSpirit... are all members/ex members.
There are some long time members who hang out in particular sub forums - watch out for Alisdair (Cotswolds Chap), Rastarican, DSR just dropping in now and then in website/Photoshop/Lightroom.
Many of the posters here are Pro/PROFA who don't need to be on the paid side any more - if someone posts with 4000 or more posts on their avatar, highly likely that their comment would cost you $1000 on a workshop.
People here like Thanks for their CC. Be grateful.
The Tutorials section contains some AMAZING hints from pros who share freely
ILP members like their CC honest, even if it is scary. Some of us are very direct. No-one is nasty deliberately - though some of us type too fast in our attempts to be helpful
Anything else that we should all know? Anyone have some history to share.
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#5506856 Get Organized - FREE Photo Studio Worksheets | EW Couture

Posted by elena wilken on 29 January 2013 - 12:04 PM

The EW Couture Get Organized Studio Worksheets bundle contains the following materials:
1 • a 12x18 Workflow Studio Customizable Dry Erase Board (the board is designed to fit Miller Lab's product specs) in .psd format
2 • a monthly calendar - interactive pdf format
3 • a blog post worksheet - interactive pdf format
4 • a client worksheet - interactive pdf format
5 • a weekly calendar - interactive pdf format

Download them here, on the blog.

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#2990115 ILP Guidelines - Must Read For New Members

Posted by Eddie on 19 February 2008 - 02:40 PM

Differences between the various member groups: (Updated 9/2012)

Open members: Free
The open forums area, which includes Open House, Showcase and more, are free and accessible by anyone who registers as a member of ILP. Because it is accessible to all, we do not allow business/client related discussions or supplier-related discussions to take place. Members are advised to read carefully the ILP Guidelines soon after registering. Welcome!

ILP Enthusiast: Enthusiast membership was designed to allow those photographers who are serious about improving their photography to share and learn with others of like mind. Forums included on the Enthusiast side include: "Basics and Beyond" (image sharing and discussion), Constructive Critique (honest image critique), Enthusiast Tutorials, Portfolio Building (discuss conducting PB sessions/methods), Lessons & Assignments, ILP Local Meet-ups, Pixels & Chips (any tech related discussion), Photo Equipment Discussion, ILP Advanced Readiness, etc. Note that in depth critique is not available on the free side, so Enthusiast membership allows members to receive constructive critique from others with more experience and more skills. No application necessary to join. ILP Enthusiast membership may be purchased here: Purchase ILP Enthusiast

ILP Advanced: $30/6month, $50/1yr. ILP Advanced allows access to a special forum that ILP members requested in order to allow discussion of advanced photo topics in a private setting. Both amateurs and pro-bound members are welcome. Accessible by application only, you must have a grasp of photographic basics and be producing consistently good images as evidenced on your website or blog, Flickr set, etc. Apply here.

ILP Pro Forums: $50 fee on approval, no charge thereafter.
Discuss all aspects of professional photography in a moderately secure environment. It's more difficult to get approved for access to ILP Pro compared to Advanced. Members approved for ILP Pro must show not only excellent photographic technique, but also just as important, he/she must demonstrate a "voice", a certain level of deliberateness and consistency in the way they approach and execute their photography. Application availability posted on front page of ILP.

ILP Gold (badge), by invitation only.
For ILP members who currently produce exceptional work on a consistent basis, AND who have shown long time contributions and helpfulness to the ILP community over the years. No special forum is allocated.
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#5400279 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by JumpingJack on 05 June 2012 - 01:25 PM

Did you know that you will get a lot more responses if you have an avatar? And a location listed? And a name in your signature?

People are much less likely to help out a nameless person with a gray-ghost profile picture and no signature.

So... BE SOMEBODY!! ^_^

Also, come back to check in on your posts, and let people know you read their feedback. Respond to people. Create relationships, rather then just take the feedback and run away. Give back. You will grow SO much more if you do that.
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#4090914 Abbreviations - Jmk Mwac Sooc Hhcc Oof Defog

Posted by HRP on 21 July 2009 - 11:09 AM

Been here a while, and gradually getting to grips with the abbreviations, but I came across a new one today which I think I've figured out. I searched & couldn't find an abbreviations thread, so in a rather rash & blaze moment decided to do one. Apologies if it's been done before. I'm sure I've missed some out, so please add/correct as appropriate.

JMK – Just my kids. Fair warning not to suggest that the fact that the subject is OOF (see below) is a good thing, make derogatory comments about the clothing or to suggest the cloning out of the hideous vase in the background.

MWAC – Mum with a camera – somebody who has a camera and wants to improve their technique for the purposes of documenting the delightful and maybe not so delightful, stages of their kids' lives.

JSO – Just starting out.

HHCC – Hard hat constructive criticism (All Simon Cowell wannabes step right in – harsh but fair)

CC – Constructive criticism – I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong – but please be nice (Paula Abdul welcome)

Plays welcome – You can copy my photo and have a go at it in photoshop – please post your play.

SOOC – Straight out of camera

OOF – Out of focus – usually applies to the eyes of the subject

Soft – Nice way of saying OOF – or where it isn't quite clear, but probable that something is OOF – so you can say 'looks soft' without condemning yourself and making it clear to all that you are a myopic idiot. Often images 'look soft' if they haven't been sharpened for web – Heidi's sharpen for web is usually recommended to resolve this issue and has been recently updated here.

Mommy goggles – Similar to rose tinted spectacles – or the male '9 beers' approach to dating - where the subject studied looks 20 times better than reality due to some other emotional or alcohol related factor.

Defog – Act of removing the fog like haze that is inherent in most SOOC shots. Some people Defog (Tutorial Here) others don't (Tutorial Here)

WWAD – What would Andrea (Joki) do – Andrea Joki ILP member with more talent than is frankly fair.

PP – Post production – everything you do to a photo after you have clicked the shutter and downloaded it to your computer up to and including the mummy goggles moment when you post it using Heidi's sharpen for web (revised) for CC, HHCC or simply to share.

DOF – Depth of field – the space that is in focus. Google depth of field for a fuller explanation.

Bokeh - Kind of simply - the blur in the background. - but not quite. Google is your friend here. Bokeh is used to separate the subject from the background whilst still giving some sense of place. Some lenses create more 'creamy' bokeh than others, but in general the wider open the aperture, and the further away the background is from the subject - the more bokeh.

Edited 28 June 2012 to copy additional definitions that appear on later posts in this thread.

Cast - An overall miscoloration of the photo meaning it's too yellow, magenta or cyan because your WB is wrong. Unless you are photographing the very ill, your sunburnt arms or smurfs these colourations are not good.

WB - White balance - defining what your camera sees as white Example here

Flat Your photo is a little muddy and needs a boost. No Zing to it!

Muddy Blah or dull in color or especially black and white photos.
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#5346942 No Pin from Pinterest

Posted by Eddie on 09 March 2012 - 10:13 AM

Okay, the entire ILP forum has been set to "nopin" at Pinterest. If anyone finds differently, just let me know. But the setting is active now.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone.

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#5400222 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by Shannon Stroubakis on 05 June 2012 - 11:28 AM

We all start somewhere, and most of us start with our own kids or family and friends. People we love. We all know how emotionally connected we are to ALL the images we post of our kids. And especially when we first start out, and are not used to honest CC and might not realize how much there is to learn, CC can sting. Even worse though is a total lack of response to your posts. Here is why you might not get pages of responses:

If you post an image of your child, and label it "OMG, I looooove this image of my dd!" and I see you're new with a lot of growing to do - I am afraid of you. I am afraid my CC will hurt your feelings. I am afraid I'll be the meanie who is crushing your soul and making you hate ILP and photography and you'll put a hex on me. So I might click out in a big hurry and not leave CC. So one ILP secret is that it sounds like you are too emotionally invested and looooove the image too much that CC might hurt you......you might not get much, and much less of it might be anything other than 'cute' (but not from a seasoned pro, they rarely leave that kind of CC) so your chances of growth go down.
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#5400284 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by DarcyD on 05 June 2012 - 01:42 PM

A few techy tips because they took me a while to figure out...

1). Add your name, camera gear (helps people know how to help you if they know what you are working with). Click on your name at the top right. Then click on "My Settings". Then work your way through the different options on the left. "Signature" is where you can add your name, equipment, web site, etc. Also run through "Notification Options" as this will help you customize to your liking. Be sure to click on "Change Avatar" & add a picture of yourself or a favorite shot.

2.) Give "Thanks" to people who help you by clicking the blue box with a check mark that is inside each individual post.

3.) In the upper right of each thread you can choose to "Follow Topic" either Anonymously or not. You can also chose how to be notified when there is action on the thread.

4.) You can set how the forum & posts appear to you when you check in to ILP. You can choose these on the left side of every page.

5.) There is a "View New Content" button on the top right. I click this when I come to ILP to see the latest happenings.

I'll add more as I think of them. ^_^
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#5450381 Disappointed

Posted by Romana on 27 August 2012 - 11:28 PM

Thank you for your comment Heather, we are retaining the Open area for Competitions, challenges and Showcasing the best work from our members. The overwhelming view from active members was to create a model where those who were learning paid for the site, rather than the previous model, where those who were teaching, particularly ILP Pro members paid for the site. ILP remains one of the few places where you can interact with working professional photographers who have been in the industry long term. The site is growing strongly and we are receiving very positive feedback from current members and a steady stream of sign up for new memberships.
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#386089 Easiest Way To Size And Post An Image

Posted by Eddie on 12 August 2004 - 07:56 AM

Updated 9/2012

Sizing an Image:

In Photoshop, open your image.

Click "Image" on your toolbar, then "Image Size". Make sure both "resample image" and "constrain proportions" are checked... it's important. See the "Pixel Dimensions" window... enter 700 in the width field. Click Okay, and you're done, that's it!

Now just save your image, and you're set to post.

That's all you need to do, unless you want to dress up the image with a frame, borders, or adjust the contrast, brightness, etc.

No need to concern yourself with DPI. The dimensions and DPI are all taken care of when you size the image to 700 pixels wide.

Posting an Image:

Go to a forum and press the "Start New Topic" button. (You may also reply to an existing topic.)

Below the text entry box (scroll down), you will see the "Browse" button or the "Choose File" button. Press it, and navigate to the image on your hard drive. Click on your image file, then press "Open" or "Choose". You will now see the file name of your image in the entry box.

Now press the "Attach this File" button. It will take several seconds to upload. Then press the "Add to Post" button over on the right. If you wanted to, you could now submit the post.

To put a space between multiple images in a post, after you've added the attachments, put each image ID on its own line, with however much space you want to show between images. Then press "Post New Topic" (if it's a new post), or "Add Reply" (if you're replying to a topic).


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#5622243 Not getting any notification

Posted by Eddie on 04 August 2014 - 11:07 AM



I very much apologize for the delay in getting our email notification issue resolved.  And my mistake for not having updated you all on its status, etc.


The support team at my server (since it wasn't a forum software issue), has told me that they have pinpointed the issue, and that certain server records that have now been updated will take a few days to propagate over the internet.  They tell me to watch for the notification emails to start arriving again.  (My notifications starting having issues lately also.)


In a perfect world, them having taken care of this issue will mean our notifications will be back in order.  I trust my server people (they're one of the best out there), so let's see how things go.  Thanks so much for your patience with me, it's been hectic lately.



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#5451165 Disappointed

Posted by JumpingJack on 29 August 2012 - 02:56 PM

ILP has always been a for-profit website. In the past it was the Prepro, Pro and Pro F/A members paying for everything while it was free for the JSO members. Now, this way, the burden is shouldered by more members including those who have the MOST to gain from being here. It's totally worth it. I've been a paying member for 2 years myself, and I'm continuing to pay. ^_^
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#5400419 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by Lisa Holloway on 05 June 2012 - 04:12 PM

Everyone starts out somewhere. At one point, every last one of us was that new person that was either a) terrified to post a pic or B) thought our pics rocked and were heartbroken when we were told otherwise. I think I was a bit of both. Try clicking on the profile of someone you admire and looking back in their history at some of their first photo shares. It will make you feel a whole lot better AND give you hope that things can improve!
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#5400212 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by Helen Savage on 05 June 2012 - 11:06 AM

If you start a thread that has 50 views and 0 replies, don't despair. It happens to everyone - yep me too! ; it's a forum, and sometimes people just don't have time, feelings or inspiration to reply. No one gets paid here, and we all have other stuff to do. Try again. Or join a new group. Or start a group yourself!

I agree with this. Remember that for every active poster on ILP, there maybe are ten lurkers (just pulled that figure out of the air, but ukwim). And even with the active members that are reading your post, maybe they don't know the answer to whatever you are asking, or they don't feel they have anything to offer in your particular thread. Or maybe they are surfing one-handed while feeding/entertaining a baby!
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#5065613 Can't comment from iPad

Posted by Trigger on 19 April 2011 - 08:42 PM

Sounds like a problem with RTE. You have to Disable RTE editor in the board settings. (I'm posting this from my iPad on the default version, not mobile version).
Go to My Settings in the top right corner. Uncheck the Rich Text Option.
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#5400976 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by JennyJenP on 06 June 2012 - 09:57 AM

One thing I see ALL the time is someone saying "I am not qualified to give CC, but..." Well, guess what? You ARE qualified to give CC!!! Even if you are JSO and haven't even clicked your shutter in manual yet for the first time, you are qualified to give CC. Is there anything about that picture that is bugging you? Just because your eyes aren't trained to see color correctly, doesn't mean that something doesn't look out of place. Even if it's a feeling you can't put your finger on, you still know what you LOVE, like and dislike about a picture and sometimes the unprofessional opinion means just as much as the pro-opinion does. Not everyone sees things the same way & you might catch something someone else misses. Even as little as you think your CC might help, it truly does help. Not everyone viewing your photos in real life are pro-photographers looking at technical nit picky things - but I truly believe that non photographers see things that either please them about a picture or displease them about a picture and can point it out.

SO - even if you are JSO & you think your opinion is not valuable, think again! You can tell us why, specifically, you either like or dislike a picture - point something out - that's how we learn. We all learn that way. You may see that piece of lint that no one else sees or you may think that color is just too darn over saturated, but no one else has pointed that out yet.

Your input is valuable no matter who you.
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#5400226 Things I never knew about ILP! - Join in and share!

Posted by Jane B on 05 June 2012 - 11:35 AM

This is a good thread about the JSO Lessons and Assignments forum and the various types of group: http://ilovephotogra...howtopic=482117

And this one explains the abbreviations and acronyms used on ILP (SOOC, JMK etc): http://ilovephotogra...howtopic=386064

eta: Any references to "Prepro" in these threads should be taken to mean "Advanced" which is it's new name.
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